Is the Mandelbrot Set real?

From: John K Clark (johnkc@well.com)
Date: Mon Aug 04 1997 - 22:34:59 MDT


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On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 Hara Ra <harara@shamanics.com> Wrote:
                      
>And thus the confusion. So, let's try a few definitions on here:
>Real - anything one says is same....
        

If you say so.
        

>PReal - Physically Real. Representable by a one to one mapping
>onto the set of all physical particles in the Universe.

        
I see, something is real if it's physical and it's physical if it's real.
I have do have a question however, are the Peano Postulates physical
particles and if not why not?
                             

>Mreal - Representable by a functioning brain.

Is Mreal a subset of PReal or is the functioning of the brain not physically
real?

>I think the notion of "Real" is a dead end, with no real
>consequences.
                 

I think the notion of "Klognee" is a dead end, with no klognee consequences.

In another post you said:
                      
>If one adheres to the notion that a wave function is strictly a
>means of calculating probabilities of events, this confusion
>vanishes.

If so and it's meaningless to ask what slit the electron went through, and it
all just comes down to what I can calculate, then what does that say about
the idea that there are things in the world independent of me, and what does
that say about your 3 different types of "reality"?
                                                         
                                             John K Clark johnkc@well.com

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