From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rms2g@virginia.edu)
Date: Tue Dec 03 2002 - 12:10:13 MST
Hubert wrote:
> Rafal wrote:
>
>> On a more practical note, I could live with the anti-death-penaltists
>> (should we call them "pro-lifers"?) paying for the indefinite
>> incarceration of those I deem worthy of being killed. If I am not
>> forced to feed a murderer, and he is effectively neutralized, I will
>> be satisfied.
>
>> Now, how much of your own money would you personally pay to feed
>> murderers in prisons? Are you going to support your high-minded
>> moral sentiments with cold, hard cash?
>
> So, you reduce it to a finacial issue. Fine. I will not spend my
> energy on starting a non profit org that raises funds for murderers.
> But I pay taxes and I guess that will do it. So some 0,00000123 cents
> of my taxes will probably pay for 10 minutes of locking a murderer
> away. Anyway, does not Justitia make them work in prison so a part of
> the costs for locking them away will be paid by the murderers' own
> efforts. This might be a solution and is probably be practised
> everywhere.
### I pay taxes, too. Will you let me opt out of paying the taxes going for
the sustenance of murderers, or do you want to force me to pay for your
moral convictions?
Murderers in prison couldn't defray even a small fraction of the
incarceration cost even if they happily worked full-time, for many reasons.
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>
> But even if murderers could not work for their "living" in jail, I
> would plead for keeping them alive. I believe, Justitia has no right
> to kill a human, even if he is a murderer.
### How about me doing the killing? Will you interfere if I and a few
buddies corner a lawfully convicted murderer, and blow his brains out? Will
you try to kill me to save a convicted murderer?
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>
>> ### Why? What's so bad about killing a killer? I see no breach of any
>> universally accepted ethical principle here?
>>
>> Rafal
>
> If you don`t *feel*, it is wrong, Rafal, it is wasted energy to
> discuss this issue. We will never agree. I do not have the ambition
> to convince you that capital punishment is disgusting.
>
### Good. I am not trying to convince you killing is good, merely to
consider the practical consequences of your moral stance (especially the
question of whether you should feel entitled to force me to finance your
ethical views).
Rafal
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