From: Jeff Davis (jrd1415@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Nov 20 2002 - 00:36:05 MST
--- "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com> wrote:
>
> Poor Jeff,
>
> He isn't following his own quotes...
>
> > "When I am working on a problem I never think
> about
> > beauty. I only think about how to solve the
> problem.
> > But when I have finished, if the solution is not
> > beautiful, I know it is wrong."
> > - Buckminster Fuller
Of course you're right, Robert. The article looked a
bit cheesy. On account of that, my first impulse was
to ask the list--you were the guy who came to
mind--what they could say to clarify the 'technique'.
Then, to save time, I looked for an old post to insert
the info into. Bucky would do as the sig quote, if
only because the report seems lacky in the essential
'beauty'.
Nevertheless, it seems yet another ste-p in the right
direction.
Best, Jeff
>
> This press release is clearly "not beautiful"...
>
> >
>
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-11/su-rcd111902.php
>
> "Kool explained. "It's still not completely clear
> how that works,
> but it is clear that once telomeres reach the
> critically short length
> of 3,000 to 5,000 base pairs, they enter senescence
> and die."
>
> Oppps, mistake number one -- as Judith Campisi
> explained at Extro 4
> senescent cells *do not* die.
>
> "The link between organism aging and cell aging is
> less clear, but there
> very likely is a link," he noted. "On the other
> hand, it is pretty
> clear that telomere length governs how long an
> individual cell lives."
>
> Not! A cell with short telomeres can live a very
> long time as
> a "scenescent" cell. Most likely the determinant of
> cellular
> longevity relates to the accumulation of mutations
> in essential
> genes.
>
> Robert
>
>
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