From: gts (gts_2000@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Nov 18 2002 - 07:42:23 MST
Lee Corbin wrote:
> Oh, no! Here, in fact, is where I think Rafal may be
> off the beam a little. He has said (although to be
> fair to him I didn't read all of his exchanges with
> you) that it depends a bit on one's *opinion* whether
> one is the same person or not.
Yes, I certainly agree with you that one's personal identity is far more
than a matter of one's subjective opinion. Psychiatric institutions are
filled with people who believe they are someone they are not.
> > The idea of fellowship and mutual identification among
> > separate individuals has been around for centuries,
> > Lee. It is as old as the hills.
>
> And I certainly do *not* mean any of this in that
> pedestrian sense.
The only difference I see is that you would have people use the first
person singular in reference to other members of the "copy collective"
to which they belong. Rather than have them say "Someone with whom I
identify closely has done thus and so," you would have them say "I have
done thus and so."
That is collectivism taken to an extreme beyond anything even Karl Marx
would have dreamed of. Marx subjugated the individual; you would
obliterate him entirely.
Is that really your vision for the future, Lee? Mine is quite the
opposite. I envision greater empowerment of the individual, including
those individuals who may have been spawned as clones or duplicates.
-gts
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