From: Eugen Leitl (eugen@leitl.org)
Date: Tue Oct 29 2002 - 03:50:16 MST
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Max M wrote:
> Are a copy the same as the original? Well We allready have a precedence
> in nature.
Yes. At the quantum level, which has a very measurable impact on the
equilibrium constant. Apart from that we have no precedence in nature.
Nature doesn't do macroscale synchronized deterministic discrete systems
with the same input very well. In fact we don't know a single example.
> One-egged twins are the same in the beginning of their life. They come
No. They are not the same. They are similiar, and diverging.
> from the same single cell. At one point that cell divide and becomes two
> featus'
>
> Anybody who argues that two copies of an upload are the same, must also
Two instances of an upload are the same if they evolve along the same
trajectory. Both trajectories are identical at the pattern level down to a
single bit.
Above is a definition.
> agree then that twins are the same person, or that the time passed and
> the different experiences since the division has made them into
> different individuals.
Two instances of an upload cease being identical at bifurcation. Whether
differences in external input or system noise or removal of evolution
constraints caused this is not relevant.
This is also a definition.
Above might come handy, and most of you still in this thread continue
arguing past each other.
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