Re: Socialism, again

From: Dehede011@aol.com
Date: Mon Oct 28 2002 - 08:12:05 MST


In a message dated 10/28/2002 5:15:12 AM Central Standard Time,
charlie@antipope.org writes: Guys, in the end socialism is only an attempt to
restore the old absolute monarchs and usurp the power of the total dictator.
It really seems to appeal to the inadequate to have the power to terrorize
their fellow man. As Ayn Rand said they don't want your obedience they want
you to crawl.
Then Charlie replied, "I'm going to let this stand for itself because it's so
wonderfully wrong- headed it exemplifies everything I find funny and
frightening about the propaganda that passes for political enlightenment in
the USA.

No Charlie,
       That is exactly the point you have been trying to wiggle away from all
through this discussion and you have no answer for it.
       The whole point about socialists is that they cannot face up to their
dark side or to their failures. Instead you just love to discuss socialism
as a very high abstraction that has lost all touch with the world of reality.
       Still all those countries you love to deny were socialist. Hitler was
out to show the other socialist how socialism should really work. Mussolini
was a communist that split with his party over a matter of political tactics
not over theory. As to the Beautiful Countries go ask a dissident that voted
with their feet and left one of those countries. Everyone of them is an
exercise in human degradation. Heck, England got so bad they had to go get
Mrs. Thatcher to pull their parsnips out of the fire.
       Guys, if I have run some of your answers together and employed a you
plural instead of a singular I apologise -- but as you know we are allowed
only so much bandwidth per day.
       If you wish to be taken seriously as a respectable political system
instead of an ancient variation of totalitarianism I suggest you do two
things. Embrace your errors, claim them, own up to your having committed
them and tell us how you intend to guarantee they don't happen again. I
don't think you have a clue -- prove me wrong.
Ron h.



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