RE: Energy in WTC Tower Collapes

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Sun Oct 13 2002 - 10:39:03 MDT


Mike Lorry (not Robert Bradbury) originally wrote

http://www.extropy.org/exi-lists/extropians/2111.html

which contains the passage

> Each collapse triggered a 2.7 richter earthquake. Each tower
> was about 40,000 tons of material (not pounds). That's 80
> million pounds of material, striking the earth at 250 mph (367
> fps). Kinetic energy equals mass times velocity squared, or
> 10,775,120,000,000 ft-lbs/sec for each tower collapse. How
> many tons of TNT is that equal to?

Alfio writes today

> On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Lee Corbin wrote:
>
> >Anyway, your 1.07 x 10^13 joules works out to about .0027
> >megaton, or 2.7 thousand tons of TNT. The little Hiroshima
> >bomb was 5,000 kilo-tons, I believe.
>
> That would be 5 megatons, which is way too much, I believe.
> At this address

You're right about Hiroshima; my figure above is way wrong.

> http://www.chandrella.org/documents/nuclear/Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki.shtml
>
> I find a suprisingly low quote of 15 kilotons. The Nagasaki bomb was a bit
> bigger, 21 kilotons.

Thanks Alfio, for looking it up.

On page 15 of the November 2001 issue of Scientific American,
under "News Scan" there appears:

    "The attack on the World Trade Center unleashed nearly 1,700
     tons worth of TNT. Average height of towers: 1,365 feet.
     Total weight: 1.25 million tons. Collapse energy: 2x2^12 joules.
     Equivalence to TNT: 500 tons. [Lee's note: I do not yet
     understand why this does not contradict the first sentence,
     but am rushing to correct my error.]. Energy in one gallon
     of jet fuel: 135,000 btu. Maximum fuel capacity of a Boeing
     767: 23,980 gallons. Approximate fuel detonated at impact:
     3,000 gallons. Explosive energy, both planes: 9x10^11
     joules. Equivalence to TNT: 990 tons.... Equivalent to TNT
     of U.S. tactical nuclear warhead: 300 to 200,000 tons."

Mike and I were not so far off: we got 2700 tons of TNT, and this
says 1700 tons.

> One would wonder what a megaton-sized bomb would do to a modern city.
> Ciao,
> Alfio

I recall in the sixties we worried about a Russian 10 megaton hitting
an Air Force base 15 miles away, and we thought that our short-term
survival, at least, was impossible unless we happened to be hunkered
down when it hit. There are figures on radii of the fireball.

Lee



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