Re: ECONOMICS: Reality bites

From: Brian Phillips (deepbluehalo@earthlink.net)
Date: Mon Oct 07 2002 - 02:26:20 MDT


Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:33:50 -0700
From: "Olga Bourlin" <fauxever@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: ECONOMICS: Reality bites

From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey@yahoo.com>

> Do It Yourself is a central requirement of libertarianism, and is highly
extropic. Do It Yourself with Basement Nanotech, Cloning, Cryonics, and
Beowulf Clustering, along with perimeter defense systems (both physical and
network level) and Personal Space Travel. What could be more extropic (and
at the same time libertarian) than that?>>

<<Yes, but, sometimes Do It Yourself (akin to Be Yourself) is the worst
advice
you can give somebody who is Libertarian (i.e., they need better PR, and
they need to behave more scrupulously so as not to give the Big Bad Press a
stick to hit them with):

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/02/offbeat.blue.candidate/index.html

http://www.dawsonspeek.com/archives/000506.php

Speaking as someone who is not a capital "L" Libertarian, the perception of
Libertarians from my home planet is that there is a great "nut" factor
there. This may indeed be unfair, but that is the perception.

Olga>>
Olga,
Nobody, But Nobody, ever mistakes you for a libertarian of any stripe.
Generally speaking when freedom attempts to mask it's own attributes
to cater to the preferences of socialists (like yourself) it can only
lose. It is among the foremost tools of statists to attempt to
subtly (and not so subtly) influence and control any political
discourse according to their own framing of the issues, often
appealing to mob psychology and "don't be a crazy" tactics.
I suspect the libertarians on the list might take you as being less
of a statist-socialist sort not truly interested in meaningful debate if
you didn't constantly chime in with comments whose primary
commonality is envy disguised as principle.
  This may be unfair but that is the perception.

Brian



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