Re: why is there spam?

From: Ross A. Finlayson (extropy@apexinternetsoftware.com)
Date: Tue Oct 01 2002 - 23:33:56 MDT


Hi,

I think a question might be "why is there so little spam".

There are a variety of good-faith "opt-in" mailing lists, which are
often singular and will remove you on request.

I've gotten"as seen on..." HGH spam, Nigerian spams, some porn spams,
username and Hello username spams, mortgage spams, pharmacy spams, and
even spams of spam mailing lists. I've received many more penis than
breast enhancement spams. I receive the Korean spams from one post.

Spam arrives from many fake and undeliverable e-mail addresses, yet it's
remarkably homogenous.

Spam: monopoly?

Mail server administrators throughout the Internet have been pressured
heavily to close open e-mail relays. When open relays are outlawed,
only outlaws spam open relays, or plainly they use their own relays to
get their own postmaster and abuse e-mail. In a similar way that
Prohibition led to organized criminal drug smuggling, the raising the
bar of entry of e-mailing everybody leads to organized ____ spam
consolidation.

Also, Napster was the front of music companies to establish ridiculous
precedent.

Anyways, how do I send an e-mail to every e-mail address? Do the
platform-provided e-mail programs (Outlook, Communicator, Mail.app) each
have default e-mail activated security holes?

Anyways, speaking of precedent, each one of those spams is good for five
hundred dollars from the spammer if you can collect.

Ross

On Tuesday, October 1, 2002, at 09:24 PM, Damien Broderick wrote:

> At 02:58 AM 10/2/02 +0000, naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
> [and
> others earlier] wrote things like:
>
>> 1. Spam works.
>> 2. People think it works.
>
> I'm guessing that it's the latter more than the former. Where spam
> differs
> from biological viral or memetic or computer viral infection is that it
> *doesn't* autoreplicate via its hosts. Someone--lots of someones--has to
> pay to send this crap out in an endlessly renewed flood. I was hoping
> for
> some more precise sense of how much it *does* cost a spammeister to
> blast
> the world with **GROW YOUR DICK REALLY ENORMOUS AND MAKE BIG $$$$ AT
> HOME!!!** Each day presumably someone is going to the computer and
> checking
> the in-box for BIG $$$$ from dupes, paying for the machine the @list is
> on,
> for the connectivity, etc. Maybe it's so laughably cheap that 1000
> people
> or fewer around the world think, `Hey, why the hell not give this
> spamming
> caper a go? Well, now that's done for the day I can go out back and bite
> the head off another chicken.'
>
> Damien Broderick
>



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