RE: REVIEWS: The Bell Curve

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Mon Sep 23 2002 - 21:17:45 MDT


Spike had written in a message dated 9/22/2002 4:27:15 PM,
 
> Herrnstein and Murray argue that IQ is real and inheritable.
> From there, critics drag in the race card, but I submit for
> evidence the small towns in southern Missouri, all inhabitants
> thereof as white as the Pillsbury dough boy. There one
> can see a clear example of declining IQ in a population (it
> certainly appeared that way to me).

to which Ron H. says

> Spike,
> Stop the theorizing. <G>

I know you're grinning ear to ear, Ron, but doncha *like*
theorizing? ;-)

> H & M report that since about 1900 the economy has
> become high tech enough that they can observe
> (statistically) the GT [Gifted and Talented] starting
> to congregate into community -- what do you think
> this list represents? LOL

I don't understand the relevance, unless you're just
trying to bolster Spike's point.

> I think I have written on this list that I come from one of those
> small towns in southern Missouri...In the early 40s those people started
> [either going north, getting into business locally, or were] too dumb
> to move off a thorn...
...
> All of which is reported as a statistical trend in H & M.
> As to the black, white, east asian and european jewish data in H & M.
> My observation is that those that can make it do so. I also seem to notice
> that those that are more or less in H & Ms GT group don't worry too much
> about race, religion etc. when associating with each other.

Yes, agreed. But *are* you agreeing that Spike has
postulated a very plausible *mechanism*, or not?

I myself thought exactly the same thing when I visited my
original home town in western Nebraska: wouldn't there
be a tendency for the bright people to move away and take
their genes with them? I also conjectured, incidently,
that the *very* dumb might also have incentive to leave
a place where they were unappreciated for the big cities,
so I predicted that the variance of the local population
would be, in addition, very narrow.)

Lee



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