From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Sep 23 2002 - 13:33:14 MDT
--- Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Mike Lorrey wrote:
>
> > And in the 'attack the messenger' tactic typical of Harvey, Eugene,
> and
> > others, because Yggdrasil posted this article, it means that the
> > statement it reports, produced by others, has absolutely no factual
> > basis. Right.
>
> It's interesting that posting a link to the person's site is being
> considered an attack. By posting that link I implicitly suggested
> that
> people go and check it out for themselves. How is that an attack? Did
> you check out that site, Mike?
Yes, and the Griff du Lion page, etc. Your attack was in your
dismissive language, implying you had already judged it to be racist
simply because you disagree with it's content.
>
> You seem to think that all parties require equal hearing. This is
> only
> true if there was no past interaction track. A Lysenkoist or a
> phlogiston
> "physicist" or a religious fundamentalist's view on darwinism are
> simply discredited, period.
A Lysenkoist or phlogiston physicist is discredited by the facts
derived from repeatable experiment and peer review, not by snide and
shallow dismissals by those who simply disagree with them on political
grounds.
>
> That not to say that nazis won't cite true things occasionally, if it
> suits them. Does it mean I'm required to give them an open ear every
> time? Shit, no.
It is specifically when racists cite true things that they are the most
dangerous, because it is with real facts that they are able to recruit
the most fence sitters.
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