From: Eugen Leitl (eugen@leitl.org)
Date: Sun Sep 15 2002 - 03:37:41 MDT
On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Avatar Polymorph wrote:
> Because life started on Earth as soon as it could...
This statement is basically invalid due to anthropic effect. You're the
(currently) end result of that process. If you exist clearly your
predecessors did exist. It's all backwards entangled in the bias. If you
find life within this solar system bearing the same origin signature these
instances of it are still entangled due to crosscontamination.
> there is post-Singularity life several billion years old throughout this
> universe.
Whoa there. If life is frequent, it doesn't mean higher life is frequent,
and it doesn't mean that sentient life is frequent. Pretty soon we'll be
able to map out Earth-like planets in our backyard, and relatively soon
after obtain their spectra (using very large spaceborne instruments). If
any of them shows up we've got planetary chemistry out of equilibrium only
then we can start building probabilistic models.
> The only reason it does not intervene now, since it is more ethical than us
The only reason God doesn't intervene now is because his ways are
inscrutable for us mere mortals. Sounds familiar?
> (wouldn't be too hard in terms of most people, driven mad by resource
> deprivation, illness and death - yep, it's hard to deny - and also
> bodylocked and incapable of resetting themselves) is because...
I couldn't parse that paragraph, I must admit.
> there is already Tipler style quantum transference (splitting) of
> consciusness at the moment of death and simultaneous repair at the other end
> of the split.
Oh, I see. You mean not only is there a God, but there are souls, too.
Halleluja! You Might Have Been Saved Already!
> Similarly, a multiverse (even the minimum Tiplerian style multiverse) is in
> effect now, without obvious Tiplerian nanoprobes and Dyson effects.
>
> Hard to believe?
In absence of evidence, yes.
> Care to believe that life doesn't exist elsewhere? That if it does, it's not
> ethical in a way we can understand? That it all fell in a heap and collapsed
> with each Singularity? Take your pick. But just remember, life began on
> Earth as soon as it could begin...
> =====================
> ABSENCE IS A CLUE TOO
My god, you're right! Because infinitely more things are absent than
present it means we're buried under a tsunami of CLUE. Somebody got a
surfboard?
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