From: Steve (steve@multisell.com)
Date: Thu Sep 05 2002 - 08:44:02 MDT
>Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:59:25 -0400
>From: "gts" <gts@optexinc.com>
>Subject: RE: Quantum tunneling and human immortality
>I pose this philosophical question: "Is true and certain immortality
>achievable in principle for you and me given the problem of quantum
>tunneling?"
>For the moment I am inclined to answer "no." However I am open to
>arguments that might convince me otherwise.
>- -gts
Since the oldest living humanoid is only 114 years I do think your
philosophical deliberations rather miss the point. However, I am
developing a Death Avoidance Scheme based on the MVT findings
www.multi.co.uk/primal.htm and have come to the conclusion that
I am already dead (a ghost) and this is the afterlife.
Since the locus of sensation is non-spatial & non-physical (our
binding mechanism is the phantom primal sensor/gan) then it can't
really be said to die with the (illusion of) physical body since it was
only ever a trace/ lacuna/ gap and organising blueprint.
When I am deeply asleep I have no consciousness of "living"
thus might as well be already dead for the difference it makes.
I assume cryogenic states are analogous to deep sonambulism also.
So even if you lived forever/ a very long time but spent most of it
asleep then what is the point? Of course the REM & NREM dreaming
times count as consciousness, so I guess an indefinate amount of lifetime
spent in dream would count as immortality? There is no firm reality
check anyway ... cite the reporting problem in verificationism.
Hopefully we can at least overcome fear of death and find a good
psychological basis for coping with (unrealistic) desire for personal
immortality that will be both rational & will supplant religion. Any medical
and life extension advances are most welcome, but perhaps we should
cover all bases and not be simplistically and blindly optimistic?
Steve Nichols
Posthuman Organisation
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