Re: Patriotism and Citizenship

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Sep 04 2002 - 16:59:38 MDT


--- Randall Randall <wolfkin@freedomspace.net> wrote:
> Brian D Williams wrote:
> >>From: Samantha Atkins <samantha@objectent.com>
>
> >>Heinlein's reasoning of course is that people don't respect
> >>things they haven't had to pay dearly for. In "Starship Troopers"
> >>you couldn't vote unless you had done a period of Federal Service.
> >
> >>And wouldn't that be a jolly world? NO, it wouldn't.
> >
> > For you of course not, you're a socialist, you believe in something
> > for nothing and redistribution at gunpoint if necessary.
>
> Aren't *you* the one advocating restricting rights to those
> willing to hold the gun and redistribute personally?

I don't recall Brian saying such. What he is saying is that those who
have served have given much (and not just because the pay stinks) more
than those who have not done so. Those who have served have
demonstrated an act of taking personal responsibility for the security
and integrity of the Constitution which they are loyal to exclusively.
Only those who have done so have demonstrated with their deeds, not
just empty words, that they are fit to be called citizens under that
Constitution.

Those who think that holding their beer mug over their heart at the
beginning of a ball game is an act of patriotism need not apply.

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