From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Aug 25 2002 - 17:38:21 MDT
--- Olga Bourlin <fauxever@sprynet.com> wrote:
> From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey@yahoo.com>
>
> > Considering that the original 'additive free' pledge was written by
> the>
> American who founded the National Socialism ...
>
> Wouldn't that be Edward Bellamy? Francis Bellamy was Edward's first
> cousin, and it was Francis who wrote the pledge of allegiance.
> (I may be wrong, though ... and perhaps have been misinformed all
> these years.)
Edward Bellamy wrote the SF novel "Looking Backward", upon which the
movement was based. His cousin, a minister, took to leading much of the
rest of his family in using the novel as a springboard to launch
National Socialist Party organizations in many different countries,
founded by the many fans of the novel.
>
> >... movement that spread around the world and caused so much
> bloodshed in
> the last century ...
>
> Religion, the military industrial complex, capitalism, elitism, and a
> host
> of other "isms" - ALONG with certain forms of socialism in some
> countries -
> all contributed to the bloodshed. And in this century it doesn't
> seem as if
> socialism is the greatest threat to humanity - but, rather, the
> true-believing immune-to-reason ancient superstitions.
If you insist on having a pissing contest, we can do that, but I, and
many others on this list can easily demonstrate that socialism, in both
its internationalist and nationalist forms, initiated and perpetrated
the deaths of over 100 million people in the last century.
Nationalism is the only other ism upon which even a fraction of that
many deaths can be heaped. Capitalism doesn't kill people. Corpses make
lousy customers.
>
> > I like my own (posted here a few weeks ago)
> much better, thanks.
>
> Be that as it may, let's hope the religious right "pro-lifers" don't
> change
> the pledge to make it even worse (this is only slightly facetious):
>
> I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and
> to the
> Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with
> liberty and justice for all, born and unborn.'
Not bloody likely. Those most pro-life also tend toward being highly
anti-immigration. They can't stomach the only solution to the abortion
problem: granting citizenship based on location on the date of conception.
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