From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Mon Aug 19 2002 - 21:58:22 MDT
On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 12:50 am, Brian Atkins wrote:
> Harvey Newstrom wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2002, at 08:01 pm, Brian Atkins wrote:
>>
>>> At this point the various governments and corporations still haven't
>>> figured out how to perfect a multilayered defense against 40 year old
>>> offensive weapons (jet passenger planes),
>>
>> Actually, this is not quite correct. Many of the assumptions floating
>> around since 9/11 are not quite accurate.
>>
>
> Ok assuming I buy into your theory that US jetliners are now 100%
> hijacker-proof (I don't personally, but...),
I didn't say that. They certainly aren't 100% hijacker-proof. I was
just objecting to the point that we "can't" protect ourselves. My point
is that we certainly can do a lot better than we have been, the real
problem is that we weren't trying before.
> my other point remains
> that the real problem here is that the government will be increasingly
> required to anticipate such attacks before they occur, because if they
> do occur the results may be increasing bad as technology advances. So
> the real issue is how does government become able to do perfect
> prediction of threats?
I agree with your point, but I don't think we are close to it yet. The
box-cutters were not an example of increased technology. We are still
fighting old technology with old technology.
>> In other words, many of our security procedures work just fine. It is
>> not true that we are incapable of defending ourselves. We just haven't
>> really tried before. Now that we know security is imperative, we can
>> apply what we know in ways we have never tried before. We shouldn't
>> have to reinvent everything from scratch.
>>
>
> For jetliners, no. For suitcase nukes, maybe no, although I still
> haven't
> heard a complete theory of interlacing defenses that will prevent them.
> For designer biowarfare, nanotech, etc. YES. And the defenses for those
> have to be in place and able to deal with/anticipate everything that
> will get thrown at them before it happens.
I know other people have accelerated predictions compared to mine, but
remember that we don't have nanotech yet. It think it will be decades
before terrorists get working nanotech.
-- Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com> Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>
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