Re: And What if Manhattan IS Nuked?

From: Spudboy100@aol.com
Date: Sun Aug 18 2002 - 02:35:43 MDT


Harvet Newstrom commented:
<<The question *is* extremely realistic. I agree that there certainly
must be an answer. Nuking innocent civilians and becoming the world's
worst terrorists is not the answer. It would never fly in our political
system, nor would it convince any terrorists to stop. We need a
realistic answer.--
Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com>
Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com> >>

By the time a large US city is destroyed, and according to Brian's premise,
that the plan became known, ahead of time, to US authorities, its too late
for a 'soft' response.

The preferred choice would be something far short of nuclear counterstrikes,
well ahead of such a well-conceived and supported nuclear terrorist
destruction of a large American city, as Brian surmised. One good idea would
be the substitution of OPEC oil, as a means to help undermine the Wahabbi &
Shia social infrastructure. Again, here is a situation where the Jihaddi
might conclude "God admonishes us!" There are variations on this theme. But
that is not the contention of his thread. This thread is about a successful
destruction of a large American city, vis a vis a coordinated, and identied
attack, from Jihaddi Islamists.

Back to the original thread; if a successful strike and depopulation, of a
large American city, were to occur, the response from the American public,
would be something you wouldn't approve of.

At that point, we could induce changes in the way the Islamic world behaves,
by only the most extreme measure. My guess is following notification that
Miami, or Dallas is in flames; the majority of the Islamic world would either
sigh, or celebrate the "fact" that Allah has once, again, humbled the Kaffir
(insh Allah).

If you don't like my belief that military counter-strikes are in order,
following such a disaster, I did also suggest the destruction of oil fields.
Why such a mad response?
1. It would slice the money source to Islamists. This would indeed force
regime
    changes in the Islamic world.

2. The Global marketplace has decided that cheap OPEC oil is paramount in
their
    lives, despite the obvious need for moving to alternative sources. Thus,
the
    "invisible hand" (Ricardo?) spoke of 2 centuries ago, serves merely to
finance the
     OPEC advantage. OPEC finances Wahabism, Wahabbism finances Islamist
     politics and Islamist politics finance Islamic Hegemony, which in large
part is why
     so much conflict between Islam and everyone else is in the news.

By the time Seattle disappears from the map, its far to late, and the
American people will likely be drawn to an eliminationist goal. This is not
pretty, it is only conjecture, but anything less, would intellectually
disingenuous. The American people would want Mecca raized, at that point.



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