From: Technotranscendence (neptune@mars.superlink.net)
Date: Fri Aug 16 2002 - 05:12:56 MDT
On Friday, August 16, 2002 2:15 AM Damien Broderick
d.broderick@english.unimelb.edu.au wrote:
>>http://philosophy.la.psu.edu/illich/deschool/intro.html
>
> A pal who was a teacher of teachers for a while tells me:
>
>>The guy [Illich] is often bracketed with is the Brazilian,
>>Paolo Freire, author of PEDAGOGY OF THE
>>OPPRESSED - but they weren't really very similar
>>(mainly because Illich is a nutter and Freire a sober sided
>>pragmatist).
I don't know about that. I found Illich to be more a Medievalist with
socialist leanings than a "nutter" -- whatever that means. I read a few
of his books including _Deschooling Society_. I found some of his
practical proposals interesting, though I didn't agree with his whole
critique of modern society.
However, like Freire -- whose _Pedagogy_ I read about the same time -- I
found a bit too abstract, mainly because he seemed to be assuming that
the reader was already a Marxist too. I could be wrong and might have
read this a little too quickly and without enough context to interpret
him. Illich did sink in a bit easier for me.
Funny story, the friend who lent me his copy of _Pedagogy_ and called
himself an "antiauthoritarian collectivist" at the time became a
hardcore, fire-breathing Objectivist-anarchist shortly afterward. I
don't know if his ideological odyssey ended there, but it made for some
strange discussions at the time.
And, yes, Illich and Freire are usually lumped together. People who
read one are usually the ones who read the other. What is the
transhumanist analog of this? Is it always a good thing to be caught in
that kind of intellectual ambit?
Cheers!
Dan
http://uweb.superlink.net/neptune/
See "Dialectical Objectivism: An Answer to Ronald E. Merrill" at:
http://uweb.superlink.net/neptune/Dialecti.html
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