RE: Nature Article

From: Emlyn O'regan (oregan.emlyn@healthsolve.com.au)
Date: Wed Aug 14 2002 - 23:59:19 MDT


I've got two queries about this article:

1 - "As things stand, other galaxies will eventually disappear as they zoom
away from us ***faster than the speed of light***."

How does that work?

2 - I don't grok the argument that the Anthropic Principle does not apply.
Could someone explain this (please type slow so I can keep up).

Emlyn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damien Broderick [mailto:d.broderick@english.unimelb.edu.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2002 4:53
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: Re: Nature Article
>
>
> At 12:45 AM 8/15/02 EDT, Mitch url'd:
>
> >http://www.nature.com/nsu/020812/020812-2.html
>
> Good pointer!
>
> >Even if 'something' had set the peculiar initial conditions
> >of our Universe, this would only apply for its first run.
> >Subsequent recurrences would produce a quite different Universe.
> >In that case, we'd have to conclude that we are in the first
> unfolding
> >of this carefully crafted Universe. This all seems too much like
> >special pleading, the researchers say.
>
> Maybe what they're missing is an interesting intersection of
> two ideas that
> struck me the other day with the news from Lineweaver and
> Davies that *c*
> was perhaps infinitely fast at Big Bang t0 (and swiftly
> slowed), and my
> notion of the Very Fast Evolution Machine (in THE SPIKE).
> Amid the noise
> and propinquity of the first fractions of a second, there
> might have been
> time for whole constellations of life to evolve and bootstrap
> themselves to
> `godlike' intelligence and power over their environment, *a
> fortiori* if
> particle exchanges were happening very much faster than *c* in such a
> compacted spacetime. Yes, *now* there is a god. This says
> nothing about
> recycling bubbles via statistical Poincare recurrence, but
> who knows what
> such advanced Ur-Minds might have been capable of impressing
> upon the shape
> of the emerging, cooling manifold?
>
> Damien Broderick
>

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