Re: globalization of fear

From: Brian D Williams (talon57@well.com)
Date: Wed Aug 14 2002 - 15:10:37 MDT


>From: Harvey Newstrom <mail@HarveyNewstrom.com>

On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 01:50 pm, Brian D Williams wrote:
>> From: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org>
>> What is the hard answer to a nuked Manhattan?
> A Mega-nuked Mecca.

>Sadly, you have no clue that you are spouting the terrorist's
>party line. You don't realize that you are justifying the
>terrorist attack on New York and giving them permission to attack
>us again in the future.

<Note to List Administrator, point of personnal privilege>

You must have missed the post about this being an exercise.

But no, it most certainly doesn't justify their attack after the
fact.

I have considerably more than a clue.

>Basically, you believe that if we have grievances against a few
>terrorist individuals that we can and should retaliate to kill
>massive numbers of their native population in return. This is the
>exact reasoning that lead the terrorists to attack innocent
>Americans. They claimed some grievances or atrocities committed
>by some American individuals. Instead of blaming individuals or
>pursuing legal courses of action, they blame an entire culture and
>declare war on innocent civilians. They believe that this course
>of action is totally justified, apparently in the exact same way
>that you do.

First of all, you have little or no clue to what I believe.

Second, this was an exercise to provoke debate.

>You are justifying the same logic they use. You are proposing the
>same course of actions they use. The results of your action are
>indistinguishable from terrorism. You propose slaughtering entire
>cities of innocent people. I don't see how this is any different
>than any other brand of terrorism.

Retaliation is most certainly not the same as terrorism.

I will skip the rest.

>And I certainly don't see how this represents a transhuman or
>Extropian response.

Why don't you give us a transhumanist or extropian response to the
nuking of Manhattan.

Brian

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