Re: Nature as Advertisement

From: Michael Wiik (mwiik@messagenet.com)
Date: Mon Aug 12 2002 - 21:56:47 MDT


Harvey Newstrom wrote:
> OK, this makes a lot more sense to me. it is not a conspiracy to
> destroy family values. It is a case of people develop theories about
> what is wrong with previous generations, and then trying to implement
> their theories to correct a whole generation.

Well, yes, and part of the plan was to split the family, remove the kids
from the family environment thru forced schooling, and so destroying at
least some value in the concept of 'family' was intentional.

I have another theory, unsupported (though perhaps suggested) from
reading, which I am having difficulty formulating while keeping my
speech politically correct. First, let me affirm that my own feelings
about sexual preferences can be expressed as "Don't know, don't care,
don't really care to know". I really have very little interest in the
sex lives of others, or in sharing anecodotes of my own sex life.

I would theorize that, if a child's non-mainstream sexual preference
leads to conflict within his or her family, that it's possible that,
whether resolved or not, the child will overemphasize that conflict and
underappreciate other potential sources of conflict in families where
the child has a mainstream sexual preference. It would seem that such
underappreciation would decrease if the conflict was resolved, and
increase if it remained a source of family tension.

On another note, I was trying (just this evening) to remember how I
learned to read. I learned spoken norwegian before spoken english, but
never had schooling in written norwegian, and so can read that language
only very slowly and with much hesitation. (It doesn't help that I have
a 4-year-old's vocabulary in norwegian, and I've forgotten much. This
led to weirdness in my trip back there two years ago; people wondered if
I was brain-damaged since my vocabulary was so poor while my
pronounciation seemed perfect).

Memories of myself at age 4 and 5 are vague, but I seem to remember
learning english in a few months, mostly from television and friends
since my mother and sister and I still spoke norwegian to each other.
But by grade 5 or 6 I was reading (english) at a first year college
level. I don't think I was in any kind of different school, yet this
seems unusual in light of my current reading (the Gatto book). Perhaps I
should research how reading was taught at that time in the particular
U.S. state I was in.

Thanks,
        -Mike

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