Re: murderers (was: Re: MicroSoft as Slave Master?)

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Aug 01 2002 - 18:32:27 MDT


--- Samantha Atkins <samantha@objectent.com> wrote:
> Mike Lorrey wrote:> >
> > Someone said that there are 56,000 murderers in
> > California jails alone. I'm not sure what the
> actual
> > numbers are, but I don't consider the population
> of a
> > medium sized city small change.
> >
> >
>
>
> Ah, so now supposed data you presented in the
> context of a
> discussion about US (entire country) prison
> population and
> characteristics is for California only suddenly, but
> the data is
> actually only hearsay. I see.

At risk of overposting to respond to this baiting
(seeing as how Samantha is likely the one who bitches
the most when I overpost), from the BOP site, these
are prisoners in FEDERAL PRISONS ONLY (you don't go to
federal prison for murder unless it happened on
federal property or to a federal employee):

TYPES OF OFFENSES (calculated for those with
offense-specific information available)

Drug Offenses: 77,791 (55.1%)

Firearms, Explosives, Arson: 13,581 (9.6%)
Immigration: 12,905 (9.1%)

Robbery: 8,740 (6.2%)
Property Offenses: 7,335 (5.2%)
Extortion, Fraud, Bribery: 6,844 (4.8%)
D.C. Offenses 6,561 (4.6%)
Homicide, Aggravated Assault,
  and Kidnapping Offenses: 2,685 (1.9%)
Miscellaneous: 1,312 (0.9%)
White Collar: 1,054 (0.8%)
Sex Offenses 1,013 (0.7%)
Courts or Corrections:
  (e.g., Obstructing Justice) 772 (0.5%)
Continuing Criminal Enterprise: 641 (0.5%)

National Security: 80 (0.1%)

end quote.

As for total national prisoner stats, try the
following:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm

Summary findings

On December 31, 2001,

-- 1,962,220 prisoners were held in Federal or State
prisons or in local jails -- the total increased 1.3%
from yearend 2000, less than the average annual growth
of 3.6% since yearend 1995.

-- there were an estimated 470 prison inmates per
100,000 U.S. residents -- up from 292 at yearend 1990.

-- the number of women under the jurisdiction of State
or Federal prison authorities decreased -0.2% from
December 31, 2000 to December 31, 2001, reaching
93,031. The number of men rose 1.2%, totaling
1,313,000 at yearend.
At yearend 2001 there were 3,535 sentenced black male
prisoners per 100,000 black males in the United
States, compared to 1,177 sentenced Hispanic male
inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 462 white male
inmates per 100,000 white males.

Between 1990 and 2000, the increasing number of
violent offenders accounted for 53% of the total
growth of the State prison population; 20% of the
total growth was attributable to the increasing number
of drug offenders.
Click on the chart to view full sized version.
 
Most serious offense Percent of sentenced State
inmates
-----------------------
              1990 2000
-----------------------
Total 100 % 100 %
Violent 46 49
Property 25 20
Drug 22 21
Public-order 7 10

end quote.

So, it seems that the assertions of some list members
that 60% of those in prison are simply peaceful couch
potato pot smokers is entirely a lie.

In 2000, fully half of all prisoners are violent
felons: murderers, killers, rapists, muggers,
batterers, etc... i.e. just the sort of scumbags we
were discussing earlier as belonging in welded shut
detention of some sort. Of the rest, half (25% of
all)are property criminals: thieves, robbers, lawyers,
politicians, bankers, junk bond traders, con artists,
counterfeiters, defrauders, etc. and 40% of the rest
(10% of all) are rioters, loiterers, vagrants, pimps,
prostitutes, panderers, pornographers, polltakers and
other non-violent criminals that start with 'p' except
pot smokers, pushers, pcp jumpers, etc....

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