Re: Think Different (formerly: Psych/Philo: Brains want to cooperate)

From: Charles Hixson (charleshixsn@earthlink.net)
Date: Sun Jul 28 2002 - 10:17:23 MDT


On Saturday 27 July 2002 19:45, Clinton Alexander wrote:
> Kenneth Hurst writes:
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Psych/Philo: Brains want to cooperate
>
>
> "It is a proven fact that men and women think differently (do a quick
> google, you'll find a ton of articles referencing this).
>
>
> Reply:
> I'd say the whole concept of thinking is out of whack. Current
> knowledge might theorize that we create thoughts with language and
> images. This happens all day long as we go about creating our little
...
>
> Clinton

There are several different ways to slice that pie. I find that I tend to
think of thoughts as coming in four different varieties, although in any
encountered example the state is always mixed.
1) model based: This mode is based on the manipulation of sensory images
2) formal: This mode is based on code structures and rules for manipulating
the codes.
3) goal oriented: teleological: Find a goal, and search for ways to achieve
it
4) ranking based: organise things on a desireable-undesirable continuum. Then
strive to move the current state to a state where things are more desireable
and less undesireable.

This seems to be orthogonal to a primary internal vs. external orientation.

If you look at this critically, it's rathe obvious that I was heavily
influenced by C.G.Jung, and I definitely agree. But he didn't have
cybernetic systems and neural nets as models.

The differences between men and women seems to be not a difference in modes of
thought, but rather a difference in the weights they give to various goal
states. Considering the difficulties that men and women have in
understanding each other, this bodes poorly for humans and computers ever
understanding each other well. OTOH, men and women don't need to understand
each other to want to be together, and this bodes well for a shared world.
(At least in a short run. After uploading starts happening, things may
rapidly get very wierd.)



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