From: Randy (cryofan@mylinuxisp.com)
Date: Mon Jul 15 2002 - 20:06:54 MDT
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:33:55 -0500, you wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:28:20 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>I am getting tired of all these accounting scandals. Every day some new
>>company announced that it has to restate earnings because it
>>misrepresented them before. (Coke now appears to have paid employees
>>with stock and never counted it as an expense....)
>>
>>Then I realized that it's not just big business. There is a crisis in
>>scientific research where more and more "breakthroughs" are being
>>discovered to be fake. People exaggerate results to get funding,
>>maintain their jobs, and help their companies make money. Similarly,
>>published papers are suffering more and more from plagerism. Publishers
>>are finding more and more lawsuits that contend that there new research
>>is copied word per word from someone else's prior work.
>>
>>Then the evening news reminded me that we are facing a similar crisis in
>>with DNA evidence exonerating felons and even death-row inmates. More
>>and more we are seeing cases where the prosecution deliberately
>>exaggerated evidence to gain a conviction or suppressed exculpatory
>>information. It seems that it is more important to get a conviction
>>than to get it fairly.
>>
>>The news also said that scams by smaller business, such as
>>air-conditioner repair, auto mechanics, used car salesmen, and the like,
>>are ever increasing. Despite public awareness programs and law
>>enforcement crackdowns, these business seem to make as much money lying
>>about repairs than actually performing them.
>>
>
>Completely agree. At the risk of using 100, 200, 300 year old
>arguments/observation, this problem is caused by the breakdown of
>society, i.e., the people who wiped your dirty bottom, i.e., you mom,
>grandma, auntie, etc., are not there to witness your unscupulous
>behavior towards what are supposed to be your fellow citizens,
>therefore, you cut people off on the freeway, you lie about whether
>the customer needs a valve job, or whether the client should buy that
>stock. People commented on this phenomenon back in Merry Olde England
>when London began to grow, and strangers came from the countryside,
>and began to act up--they were freed from the constraints of social
>reproof/control they got back in the village. Boomtown London awaited,
>and they were free of societal constraints, at least to the degree
>that they could elude the constable. And the distant threat of the
>constable was never--and still aint-- a match for granny's stern and
>disappointed looks.
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>>Politics is no stranger to lying either. Watch an episode of Crossfire
>>(when Max isn't on!) and you will see both sides lying to such extremes
>>that they just plain seem to come from different worlds. They can't let
>>their opponent have an inch or show a sign of weakness, so each have to
>>take extremist views and revisionist histories such that their side has
>>never been wrong or never had a negative incident in the history of the
>>world.
>>
>>So what does this all mean? Besides the obvious fact that it's easier
>>to lie than actually produce anything of value, how do we proceed from
>>here? People don't seem to be trustworthy. As the rate of technology
>>increases exponentially, the rate at which these frauds and failures
>>assail us might likewise increase at an exponential rate. It seems that
>>our skepticism need to apply to everyday matters and not just to science
>>and religion. News needs to be questioned. Claims need to be
>>challenged. Breakthroughs need to be verified. Research needs to be
>>checked. We can't afford to believe things just because they fit into
>>our world view, or just because we want them to be true.
Grandma's watchful eye is, however, yet available to us in the form of
cameras/various surveillance technology, if only we would use this
tool. But why should those in power grant it to those who do not have
it?
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