Re: Why most transhumanists will need to move to Mars

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Fri Jul 12 2002 - 03:14:31 MDT


On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 02:08 am, marc_geddes wrote:

I agree totally with the idea of getting off planet. I'm not sure
collecting all together on Mars would be good, though. I think
distribution through the asteroids, then the Kuiper Belt, and then the
Oort Cloud would be safer. It would allow us to have a million
independent little worlds. None of your arguments are specifically
pro-Mars, they are merely anti-Earth. Any migration away from Earth
would help get all our eggs out of one basket. Putting the rescued eggs
in another single basket does not make sense.

> In "The Case For Mars" Robert Zubrin brilliantly makes the case for
> Mars as
> the logical choice for the first off-world colonies. Only on Mars do
> the
> right conditions exist.... (The most important being sufficient amounts
> of
> organic materials).

I think ice is all we would need. Ice-asteroids or comet bodies would
do fine. Water to drink. Break up H2O into hydrogen for fuel and
Oxygen to breath. Do some hydroponics or fertilizer farming for food.
Radio links for a interplanetarynet. You're all set.

> Transhumanists need to establish colonies on Mars that are free of
> political
> control from our Earth-bound friends. I'm not suggesting any particular
> political model... I think we will need to experiment with many
> different
> models.

Until we learn to get along on our mailing lists, I doubt we can form
cooperative colonies. We all seem to be stubborn, but in different
conflicting ways.

> Different colonies will try different politics... it's a matter
> of experimentation to see what works best. For instance we could have
> a libertarian colony, and another colony practicing something along the
> lines of James Hughes's 'Democratic Transhumanism'. One colony could
> try
> 'laissez-faire capitalism' but other colonies could try quite different
> things

I prefer, whole worlds based on these concepts with little space
journeys between them.

--
Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com>
Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>


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