Cellular ice damage and cryonics

From: Dickey, Michael F (michael_f_dickey@groton.pfizer.com)
Date: Thu Jul 11 2002 - 13:10:01 MDT


I would like to say all the recent news surrounding Ted Williams and Cryonic
suspension has made me consider the subject of cryonic suspension much more,
but in reality it was nanogirls post about getting her bracelets for Alcor
that inspired me to really take this seriously. Currently my fiancée and I
are looking at life insurance policies and planning on signing up, so many
thanks Gina.

With the huge surge in popular recognition of the subject recently, I keep
hearing more about the damage from the crystallization process and how
difficult it is to repair. I remember reading in Drexler's 'Engines of
creation' that the damage from crystallization is actually way over-hyped.
I noticed Max in his discussion on CNN's cross fire that he acknowledged the
damage was there and would be something that has to be overcome. So which
is it? Is the damage really that bad? Alcor site speaks of pumping the
person full of a liquid that prevents crystallization, how effective is
this? I have heard of other beings, fish and frogs, that have a natural
resistance to crystallization of water and thus can be frozen / unfrozen
multiple times.

If the damage is bad, then my next question is, has Alcor or any other
cryogenic suspension group investigated amorphic solidification of solids?
I noticed in E Shaun Russels post that he speaks of progress in
vitrification, is this what the chemical solution is for, how complete is
the effect?

The reason I am asking is because I have read of 'bulk metallic glass', that
is, the vitrification of large chunks of molten steel solidifies the metal
without crystallization. As far as I know the process requires a very rapid
cool down, going from molten metal to solid temperatures in seconds. There
is a company which makes golf clubs out of amorphic steel now

http://www.liquidmetalgolf.com

If damage due to crystalization is that major, could this same vitrification
process be used to freeze and solidify a person without the crystalization?

Michael

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