From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Wed Jul 10 2002 - 14:08:25 MDT
On Wednesday, July 10, 2002, at 02:13 am, John K Clark wrote:
> Good God almighty, this turned nasty in a hurry! I had no idea you had
> such
> incredibly thin skin. Ok, let me spell it out, I was not hinting that
> you
> ever said the words "Frankenstein" or "Frankenfood" or Franken-
> anything,
Finally! This is all I wanted you to say. Now for the sake of
civility, please stop misrepresenting me. If I never made such a claim,
stop arguing as if I had. You can argue against your strawman position
all you want, but stop acting as if that is my position.
> but by forcing people to say this product is genetically engineered you
> are
> doing the equivalent as I made clear in the very next line that for some
> reason you did not quote "the anti science people have been very
> effective
> in equating genetic engineering with evil". But then, I don't think you
> really need this explanation, I think you already knew that.
I understand that you think my position would logically result in the
Frankenstein scenario you describe, but stop saying that I support the
scenario or am anti-GM food. I am not. Even if you can't understand
how a pro-GM person could also support accurate food labeling, please
believe me when I say I am pro-GM and pro-GM-labeling. If you want to
argue against my GM-labeling position, feel free to do so with me. If
you want to argue anti-GM positions, please do so without attaching my
name to it. I am trying to promote GM foods and other future
technologies while you are spreading the word that I am really anti-GM.
This is very confusing to people.
>> You have 48 hours before I make an official complaint to
>> the list moderators concerning your slander.
>
> So, you're giving me 48 hours to get out of Dodge City, this is really
> turning juvenal. By the way, I don't consider this a retraction and I
> certainly don't consider anything I said slander, insulting or even
> unfriendly.
No. I'm giving you 48 hours to tell the truth before I invoke the list
rules against you. You do not understand the damage you are doing to my
reputation by misrepresenting me. You do not even understand how
spreading false statements about other people violates list rules and is
just plain wrong. Even after repeated attempts to get you to stop, you
are still defending your position of misrepresenting me, and are trying
to make me look like the thin-skinned juvenile for asking you to stop.
Feel free to argue against anti-GM Luddites all you want, but stop
trying to convince people that I am one of them!
-- Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com> Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>
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