Re: Monkeys in Space [was group-based judgement]

From: Olga Bourlin (fauxever@sprynet.com)
Date: Sat Jun 08 2002 - 11:28:34 MDT


From: "Eugen Leitl" <eugen@leitl.org>

> > doubt that many fail to outgrow such a power trip fantasy. I
>
> You're anthromorphising here.
>
> > bet that most of those with enough wisdom to actually survive
> > the experience of very high technology find that there are other
>
> We don't need a very high technology in order to colonize space. Arguably,
> with enough investments into R&D and launches three decade old technology
> is sufficient to live off planet sustainably. Once you're forced to live
> on whatever you can wrestle from a hostile place, there is considerable
> drive to enhance the technology.
>
> > things of higher value than expanding endlessly and attempting
> > to rule everything.
>
> I don't see how applying human value systems (monkey are funny that way)
> to not even sentient processes helps us here.

Speaking of which ... I recently went to see the 3-D IMAX called "Space
Station." It was entertaining (all right in itself), but also absorbing
(and I mean 100%) in a unique way. Many beautiful scenes: Florida, Russia
and, of course, inside, on top of and around the International Space
Station, and you are "right there" throughout. Even though there was the
oft-quoted experience of seeing Earth as one - "without borders" - a
particularly thought-provoking bit of narration touched on how the
astronauts and cosmonauts began to feel a kind of distancing from their home
planet (i.e., their home was the International Space Station - planet Earth
was over there on their right, and the rest of the universe was on their
left).

http://www.imax.com/spacestation/

Good show.

Olga



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