Re: extropians-digest V7 #150

From: Dossy (dossy@panoptic.com)
Date: Thu Jun 06 2002 - 17:18:48 MDT


On 2002.06.06, Samantha Atkins <samantha@objectent.com> wrote:
> Dossy wrote:
>
> >On 2002.06.05, Samantha Atkins <samantha@objectent.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Dossy wrote:
> >>
> >>>To the victor go the spoils. There's nothing wrong with "these people"
> >>>-- there's something wrong with everyone else.
> >>>
> >>I am shocked and horrified by such an answer.
> >>
> >
> >Why, because it's true?
>
> Because it says that this behavior is right and good. It is
> neither and cannot be endured and certainly should not be
> approved of.

Please read what I say, not what you think I mean. Thanks.

Something is wrong with everyone else: they're dead. They lost.
Whatever.

I said nothing about the behavior. If you want my opinion about
the behavior, here it is: We are naturally competitive beasts.
The largest prize is life and death, it is only natural that we
erect the most extraordinary games that involve these prizes,
such as war.

Saying that we are "wrong" or "immoral" because of this is like
condemning the snake which eats the rodent and that is undoubtedly
foolish. It is merely the cycle of life, like it or not.

Given this, I'd rather be on the winning team than the losing
team, if you know what I mean.

> >>>That is merely how the game is played. Those who don't play the game as
> >>>well, inevitably lose.
> >>>
> >>Life and death is NOT a "game".
> >>
> >
> >Refusing to play doesn't make it any less a game than it is,
> >Samantha.
> >
>
>
> It is not a "game" to start with.

You're right, it's a competition.

> >The only way to win, is to play and win.
> >
>
>
> If winning requires accepting "to the victor go the spoils" in the
> context described and all others then I have no interest at all in
> "winning".

Suit yourself. More for the rest of us, then.

> Fortunately I don't think this entire view is in the least mandatory
> and I don't choose to play such a pointless and evil game.

Neither did the losers who are not around to enjoy the spoils,
get it?

Thank goodness history is written by the winners and not the losers.
Else, history would be a epic of whiny nonsense.

-- Dossy

-- 
Dossy Shiobara                       mail: dossy@panoptic.com 
Panoptic Computer Network             web: http://www.panoptic.com/ 
  "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
    folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70)


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