Re: group-based judgement

From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Thu Jun 06 2002 - 14:47:36 MDT


Reproductive fitness is not everything. It certainly isn't in
the world we are seeking to build.

- samantha

Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote:

> Emlyn O'regan wrote:
>
>>>ERROR 514: group selection hypothesized
>>>
>>Maybe. I would have said it was individual behaviour selected for in the
>>context that there is always a group.
>>
>>Should I have replaced phrases such as "many societies have evolved to..."
>>with "many individual behaviours, which collectively resemble a society,
>>have evolved in the context of external social influences to...", and "it
>>makes the society a nicer place to be" with "it improves what the individual
>>can expect of his/her social environment"?
>>
>
> It doesn't fix the logical problem, unless you can explain how the behaviors
> which improve the social environment collectively also improve reproductive
> fitness individually.
>
> -- -- -- -- --
> Eliezer S. Yudkowsky http://singinst.org/
> Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
>



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