Re: Censorship

From: Alex Ramonsky (alex@ramonsky.com)
Date: Wed May 29 2002 - 09:34:02 MDT


I hate to say 'I told you so', but if you'll take a look at those
quotes from the archives, at least you learn what sort of thing not to
talk about to avoid giving them more ammunition.

More important, shouldn't someone (pro-act, perhaps) be contacting these
people and protesting about this mislabelling? Websites don't write
themselves; somebody's responsible. Here's an opportunity to do
something positive for extropy, without any violence whatsoever. So come
on, all ye who wanted some action. There must be enough brain cells here
to deal with this one...

Harvey Newstrom wrote:

>
> On Wednesday, May 29, 2002, at 03:39 am, Alex Ramonsky wrote:
>
>> If you are seen as part of a group, the behaviour of every single
>> member of that group affects you personally. New members and the
>> general public are going to judge the group according to what they
>> see in real time.
>
>
>> I joined a new group and the topics on its mailing list were
>> unpleasant in my opinion, I'd withdraw, not perhaps realising that
>> these posts were a minority. I'd then tell others who asked about
>> this group, "oh, they just seem to talk about murdering all the time;
>> don't bother with them," etc etc. If someone statred causing bad
>> trouble in public and shouting about being an extropian, I'd hesitate
>> to ally myself with anything connected with that word.
>
>
>> As a member of a group we all have a responsibility not to do
>> anything deleterious to the reputation of that group. We're in
>> control of the reputation we get only as long as that responsibility
>> is acknowledged.
>
>
> I fear this is very true. I just did a search on "extropian and
> racist" and found dozens of sites that try to classify groups. They
> list extropians as one of the neonazi racist groups. Some of these
> sites have quotations from the list and from the archives, or pointers
> to other webpages with extropian posting on them. I didn't realize
> how bad this problem was. I need to do more investigation on the
> Internet to see what other people are saying about Extropians. At
> first glance it doesn't look good.
>
> --
> Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com>
> Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>
>
>



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