From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Wed May 29 2002 - 05:36:11 MDT
On Wednesday, May 29, 2002, at 03:19 am, Zero Powers wrote:
> Guys, give it up. You are going over ground that has been tilled to
> little final effect since before the time of Socrates.
You don't seem to understand that some people are trying to drop it!
Many of us are arguing that threads discussing how to decide which
infants don't deserve to live, how to judge people by their race, and
which opponents we should blow away first, are all off-topic and should
be dropped.
Surprisingly, we are getting a lot of rebellion from people who insist
that such topics are "Extropian" and "need" to be discussed on this
list. The meta-discussions about "censorship" and "how to choose" and
"do we believe in the principles" and the like are all because people
are demanding that these topics continue.
Despite the pre-emptive charges of "censorship" where there seemed to be
none, I am seriously considering calling for a ban on topics proposing
violence as the "extropian" way.
> You guys, as able as you are, are not going to resolve it on this list.
>
> Suffice it to say that there is a consensus here on this list that the
> Extropian principles are generally attractive to us. Does that mean
> they will necessarily be attractive to all intelligent beings in all
> places at all times? Hardly. Of course, we could just write off
> anyone who takes issue with the Principles as being unintelligent, but
> they could just as easily hurl that ephithet our way and, again, we'll
> have gotten nowhere.
How do you propose that we get people to take this elsewhere? I have
been trying to get these threads killed for weeks now.
-- Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com> Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>
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