From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Fri May 24 2002 - 01:15:09 MDT
On Thursday, May 23, 2002, at 08:57 pm, Lee Corbin wrote:
> Harvey and I always seem to look at things differently. He writes
>> So when people point out a logical flaw, it is like a math error.
>> It is not quoting dogma. It is pointing out invalid thought. Not
>> politically incorrect thought because it comes to the wrong conclusion,
>> but invalid thought because it is internally inconsistent or makes
>> a simple error of logic which invalidates itself.
>
> "Invalid thought?" Now I've heard everything. This tops any
> political correctness I ever heard. With Harvey as Leader we'll
> be able to scientifically and mathematically expose the thoughts
> of those who are illogical. You can't be serious!
I'm quite serious. Scientific method, logical thought, and pan-critical
rationality are intended to point out illogical thought processes. When
people express a proposed sequence of thoughts, they can be
scientifically and mathematically critiqued. Internal errors and
inconsistencies can be identified objectively and specifically.
Otherwise, what did you think the tools of Rational Thinking were for?
>> If you are not using our Extropian methodology, what
>> methodology are you using to arrive at your "truth"?
>
> So now it turns out that Extropianism provides a methodology
> for obtaining the truth? I am almost speechless. I really
> wonder if back in the days that Max More was dreaming up the
> extropian principles he had the faintest clue that he was
> on the verge of crystallizing a methodology for obtaining
> truth. What utter nonsense.
What do you think "Rational Thinking" is seeking if not truth? Why
"remain open to challenges to our beliefs and practices" or "welcome
criticism of our existing beliefs while being open to new ideas" if not
for the purpose of obtaining truth?
-- Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com> Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>
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