Re: Chat Log - Sun 12 May 2002

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Tue May 14 2002 - 21:50:24 MDT


On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, at 08:32 pm, Ziana Astralos wrote:

> The log from the #extropy chat on Sun 12 May 2002 is available at
> http://www.extropy.org/forums/log-2002-05-12.html
>

Thanks, Ziana. This was fun. I attended this retroactively.

[14:16] *** Joins: Harv
[14:16] *** Joins: Ziana
[14:16] *** Now talking in #extropy
[14:16] *** Topic is 'Chat for the Extropians Mailing List -
www.extropy.org'
[14:16] *** Set by Eliezer on Mon May 06 04:53:10
[14:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ziana
[14:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Harv
[14:16] <Harv> Woohoo! Thanks, Eli. Hi, Ziana.
[15:29] *** Joins: randome
[15:29] <randome> Hey, whaddaya know, all that worked
[15:29] *** randome is now known as rocketplumber
[15:29] <Harv> Hi, Randome (I mean rocketplumber)!
[15:29] <Ziana> hiya doug
[15:30] <rocketplumber> Hi ziana, everyone else wandered off?
[15:30] <Ziana> nope, this is all there is so far
[15:30] <Harv> Sorry I couldn't really make it. I'm going to edit
myself in later.
[15:30] <Eliezer> The chat is in 3h30m
[15:30] <Harv> I was really at my Mother's house so I couldn't attend.
[15:30] <rocketplumber> Well, it beats working- which is what I'd be
doing otherwise
[15:33] <rocketplumber> And not until then, else we'd run out of things
to say, huh?
[15:33] <Harv> Not a problem for me, since I'm not in real-time!
[15:33] <Eliezer> Not fair to the people who *do* show up on time - we
had that problem on the first SL4 chat
[15:33] <Ziana> lol
[15:33] <Harv> Sorry. I'm sure the original time-line will be fine
without me.
[15:33] <rocketplumber> Oh, hey, i can babble on for hours, trust me ;)
[15:33] <Harv> Me, too. Even when I'm not really here.
[15:35] <rocketplumber> Well, there's much I can do until then- later
[15:36] * Eliezer is wondering whether he will need to write an XUL
application to implement a complex design documentation tool
[15:36] * Eliezer has been told by several parties that it is
"unreasonable" to ask for a tool that simultaneously allows him to
navigate and create complex network structures and word process
documents in those structures
[15:37] <Harv> Hmmm.... "Unreasonable Software" That sounds
familiar....
[15:37] <Ziana> none of those mentioned on the list thus far do what
you're looking for, then?
[15:37] <Eliezer> Actually, I should save this for the chat.
[15:37] <Harv> No problem. I'll just edit the time-line some more if it
doesn't work out.
[15:37] <Eliezer> No, nothing so far
[15:38] <Harv> I may need to add some more participants as well.
[18:05] *** Joins: Michael
[18:05] <Harv> Howdy, Michael.
[18:07] *** Joins: outlawpoet
[18:07] <Harv> Howdy, outlawpoet.
[18:09] <outlawpoet> howdy.
[18:10] <outlawpoet> ?
[18:10] <Harv> Sorry, I'm retroactively changing the timeline. I know
it's confusing.
[18:10] <Ziana> hiya
[18:10] <BJKlein> hi
[18:10] <rocketplumber> Hi outlaw- I'm only barely here...
[18:10] <outlawpoet> me too
[18:10] <Harv> Me three!
[18:10] <outlawpoet> i'm at work
[18:10] <Ziana> still 50min till 'starting time'
[18:10] <Harv> I'm even less barely here...
[18:10] <outlawpoet> i just didn't want to miss 'IT'
[18:10] <Harv> Me either. That's why I'm showing up retroactively.
[18:11] <rocketplumber> I'm at work, but not working- closest I've come
to it today is having a bull session with out cheif engineer and making
a possible new invention- par for the course :)
[18:11] <outlawpoet> heh, i'm at work, but i rarely work anyway
[18:11] <Harv> I'm retroactively attending by editing the timeline.
[18:11] <rocketplumber> More later...
[18:11] <Harv> Exactly!
[18:11] <Michael> Starting time..?
[18:11] <Harv> My starting time won't show up for a few days.
[18:12] <Michael> Is there a scheduled chat here?
[18:12] <Harv> Your starting time should be coming up relatively soon
[18:12] <outlawpoet> except when a particularly crafty ISDN connection
attempts to outsmart me
[18:12] <Harv> Oops, sometimes the distorted timeline gets the packets
out of order.
[18:12] <outlawpoet> yeah
[18:12] <Harv> When are you supposed to be appearing?
[18:12] <outlawpoet> at 5 Rocky Mountain
[18:12] <Harv> OK, I'll try to edit that back in right.
[18:13] <outlawpoet> 'official unofficial extrope chat'
[18:13] <outlawpoet> declared by Eliezer up there
[18:14] <Harv> And my changes get even more officially unofficial than
that.
[18:13] <Michael> who organized it
[18:13] <Harv> Eliezer organized the original, but he doesn't know I'm
retroactively attending yet.
[18:13] <Michael> ohhhhh
[18:13] <Harv> He came up with the original time-line.
[18:13] <outlawpoet> he seems to like declaring chats
[18:13] <Harv> But I hope nobody minds people showing up later
[18:13] <Michael> fine with me
[18:13] <outlawpoet> i always miss them, though :-(
[18:13] <Harv> Yeah, it's easy to miss people who aren't here yet
[18:13] <outlawpoet> so i told myself, 'self, you're not going to miss
this one'
[18:13] <Harv> That's why I am taking such desperate measures to show up
[18:14] <outlawpoet> and here i am
[18:14] <Harv> And so am I, sort of.
[18:14] <outlawpoet> like magic
[18:14] <Harv> Well, sufficiently advanced technology and all that....
[18:14] <Ziana> yeah, i managed to forget about the last sl4 chat
[18:14] <Harv> That happens when they retroactively change after the
fact.
[18:15] * Harv begins to slip back into reality.

[ OK, this is sick. I'm not going to carry on this delusion any
further. Before I get committed into a mental hospital, I need to make
sure that I can make the next chat in real time! ]

--
Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com>
Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>


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