Re: LUDD: Neb. Pipe bomb spree the work of luddites?

From: YP Fun (ypprotection@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue May 07 2002 - 13:51:27 MDT


me: Socialist-Democratic-Capitalist.

--- Mike Lorrey <mlorrey@datamann.com> wrote:
> > I can see anarcho-capitalist leaning, but anti
> globalization? Being against

I don't know what is wrong with a international
 court and world trade.

One set of rules for everyone on the planet.
Democracy is sweeping the world. Democracy, socialism
and capitalism seems to go hand in hand.

What is anarchy? I don't see how a state can exist
and function without a government. How will you
protect the citizens from the criminals? How do
solve simple problems like transportation, clean
water,
advance technological developement, electricity???

Communism is practically dead. China and Cuba
are surpose to be communist. I think of the two
Cuba is more true to communism we will see how long
that last.

China scares the shit out of me.

Problem with communism is that human beings can not
be trusted. We are inherently selfish. Many communist
countries turn into fascist oligopolies, when a few
people in the government has power. Besides
proproganda and indoctrination and censorship which
I believe are critical to sustaining a communist
state,
prevents a communist state from improving. When no
one is allowed to criticize the state how can it
improve.

Inspite of all the problems that exists in North
America there is no other place I would rather live.

Yes, rascism and sexism exists but anyone who comes
to this continent with nothing can by sheer hardwork
alone make a decent living and send their children
to school. In fact on this continent if you have
the will you can overcome your original economic
class, which is more than I can say for most
countries.

> > globalization doesnt seem to jive to well with a
> general hope that the
> > standard of living will increase globally. You
> wouldnt want people to
> > freely choose to trade with the rest of the world?
> Would you prefer to
> > perpetuate the economic imbalances between 1st and
> 3rd world nations at the
> > expense of the 3rd world nation laborers?

I agree.

>
> First off, I didn't say anarcho-capitalist, I said
> anarchist, with
> socialist leanings. If you inspected the contents

I am not sure I understand. How can you believe in
socialism (government) and anarchy (anti-government).

> types, the only true anarchism is socialist
> anarchism.
> Anarcho-capitalism to them is fascism in sheeps
> clothing and is

what is wrong with capitalism. Capitalism is
emotionless and very clear cut. The biggest problem
I see in capitalism is that those who already has
money has a serious advantage over those who don't.
Hopefully having a democratic-socialist government
can counter balance this.

> If a developing nation successfully becomes an
> industrialized liberal
> democracy, they believe it becomes lost to 'real'
> socialist revolution.
> As an example, if unemployment in the West Bank
> dropped to less than
> 10%, do you think that there would be anywhere near
> the level of
> terrorist violence we've seen in the last few years?
> There wouldn't,
> Israel cut Palestinians off from jobs in Israel in
> response to bombings

I don't think that Israel cut Palestinian off of
jobs from Israel. Palistinians definitely suffer
but not having a home or land or freedom of movement
is a much bigger problem than unemployment.

YP

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