From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@datamann.com)
Date: Mon May 06 2002 - 08:01:27 MDT
"Robert J. Bradbury" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 5 May 2002, Mike Lorrey wrote:
>
> > "Experimental results showed that a large photonic band gap for
> > wavelengths from 8 to 20 microns proved ideally suited for suppressing
> > broadband blackbody radiation in the infrared and has the potential to
> > redirect thermal excitation energy into the visible spectrum."
>
> Ok, fine, so you uplift the energy into the visible region.
> At that point it becomes an energy resource for consumption.
> The laws of thermodynamics state that sooner or later you must
> radiate this at a lower temperature.
Well, I haven't gone into the details of what they are doing, but it
seems to me like they are doing the quantum eqivalence of what is known
in water power circles as a hydro-ram. If you aren't familiar with it,
essentially you can take a hydraulic head of as little as three feet to
propel water as high as 30 feet. In the case of photons, you take twenty
photons with, say, one quanta each of energy. If the tungsten structure
forces them to pool their energy, dropping 20 photons to the half quanta
level of the zero point field, which give their half their energy (ten
quanta) to one photon which is at one quanta, thus boosting it to 11
quantas energy level, where it can be used to do work until it gets back
down to the one quanta level. Energy and matter are conserved, and, like
the hydro-ram, it doesn't require anything outside of the mechanism
structure and the energy in the fluid (photons) to make it work.
If this is how the tungsten filament technology does it, then you are
dumping half your waste energy and most of your photons into the zero
point field every cycle, with the rest being boosted back up to a useful
potential. You are radiating, but at such a low level that it is
indistinguishable from empty space.
>
> > This implies that such macroengineering structures, if equipped with
> > this technology, would be capable of stealthing themselves entirely
> > within the cosmic background radiation. Such entities would recycle
> > their waste heat round and round within the structure, cooling their
> > black body temperature significantly.
>
> Even without photonic bandgap engineering, MBrains can stealth
> themselves down to the CMBR level if they have sufficent material
> to absorb and radiate heat at lower temperatures.
>
> What Mike proposes, would perhaps be a more compact structure
> capable of achieving stealthing (which certainly has computational
> efficiency advantages).
>
> The critical question would appear to be whether or not the
> stealthing technology depends on elemental abundances?
Good question. How abundant is tungsten, and how much tungsten was
required in these devices?
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