From: Mikko Rauhala (mjrauhal@cc.helsinki.fi)
Date: Sat May 04 2002 - 22:11:24 MDT
On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 03:43, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> > On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 12:06, Mikko Rauhala wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 15:27, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> > > > Furthermore, while the luddites have already stooped to bombing
> > > > and murder (The Unabomber Ted Kazinski), the CTHD will not engage in
> > > > such practices unless we are specifically targeted by such tactics.
> > >
> > > Is it just me, or does this strike anyone else as not very comforting?
[snip]
> WHile I understand that there are many in europe who don't recognise
> that the individual human has a right to defend themselves with
> appropriate force, we in the US do, and we'd appreciate it if
> know-it-all europeans stopped shoulding all over us.
Well, I have to admit that here in our European pseudo-democratic
socialist nations we don't usually consider premeditated murder and
bombing of people one suspects of being a threat to one's person as
being self-defense.
This was the actual impression I got from your mail, as "murder"
generally implies premeditation and being the aggressor within a
specific confrontation, as does "bombing". I have no objection to you
offing an assailant in a confrontation if you deem it necessary, but I
certainly would not consider it appropriate use of force to proactively
hunt down and bomb people you think might pose a threat to you, even if
you had been attacked first. Guess that's the communist in me talking.
I could have of course given you the benefit of the doubt and
interpreted the comment in a less aggressive manner, but frankly, you
have painted a rather fanatical picture of yourself in your mails, so I
simply took the statement at face value as you being willing to resort
to Unabomberish tactics should your organization be targeted by
violence. Please do clarify if you merely didn't phrase your attempt at
making a point very well. If you did, though, I'm somewhat glad that you
didn't want to take on the world - at least that way I might stand a
better chance of not becoming collateral damage in your private little
war, should it happen to come to that.
In any case, here's hoping violence doesn't enter into it from either
side.
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Mikko Rauhala - mjr@iki.fi - <URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/>
- WTA member - <URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/>
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