RE: Reproductive Cloning

From: YP Fun (ypprotection@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu May 02 2002 - 19:31:15 MDT


--- Lee Corbin <lcorbin@tsoft.com> wrote:
> To the degree that you are talking about
> legal rights, you raise an important question
> (almost needless to say). Just how will some
> programs acquire the legal rights that, say

Not necessarily.

>
> No, animals should not have legal rights.
> The basic reason is that they've never been
> citizens of any society based on law. We

Let us narrow this down. Say instead of rights we
use the following term:

"Ownership". According to Merriam-Webster:

1 a : to have or hold as property : POSSESS b : to
have power over : CONTROL <wanted to own his own life>

> are lucky that all human beings form a
> tight cluster. (Think of how difficult things
> would be if some races really were much less
> intelligent than others?) We definitely
> should not mess with that boundary between
> humans and animals.

Currently the assumed and unwritten law suggests
that any HUMAN being has a write to own or to take
as a possession an ANIMAL.

This law transcends legal law. Ownership has been
around since humans stopped being nomads.

>
> (i) that tree would never have been considered
> a citizen in any society that has ever
> existed, any more than a blood donation is.

I guess until the day a TREE can express pain and
discomfort we can ignore it.

Really if a tree cannot disagree than it really
doesn't matter.

> (ii)Proposal: a citizen must have human level
> sentience for starters.

Now, we are talking about intelligence. When humans
were the most intelligent species on this planet
it did not matter, because, we could basically
dominate
and bully all other animals on the planet. The
potential that there will be a species smarter
than human beings creates a need for us to
write laws to protect ourselves. Which is why
we may all of sudden fell the need to create laws
for animals.

>
> > Where do the boundaries of an organism begin
> > and the boundaries of an organism end? How
> > close are cells tied together? If two cells
> > are adjacent and in contact with one another
> > are they one organism? Are two daughter cells
> > far apart two organisms?
>
> These questions are not as difficult as they
> appear, in almost all cases thus studied. See
> a biology book for guidance. But in the future

Not so. In the early stages of conception, the first
few cleavages of a fertilized cell any part
daughter cell when separated from the whole cell
can potentially develop into a full fledge
human being.

Would you like to have a stand by body bank?

How much safer is a stand by body bank from
plastic surgery? There are a great deal of
benefits to having replaceable body parts.

YP

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