Re: muslim conflict poem

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Mon Apr 29 2002 - 10:59:00 MDT


On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 02:29 am, spike66 wrote:

> After the 9-11 attacks we have seen everything proposed
> on this list ranging from nuclear annihilation of America's
> enemies to unconditional surrender to all terrorist demands.

Has anyone really proposed unconditional surrender to all terrorist
demands? Or was this just an equal mirroring of the extremists on the
other side?

> Yet most of us would likely agree that during the entire debate,
> we saw not one thing that sounded like a real solution,
> or anything that appeared deeply insightful from the
> extropian community in all of the profuse commentary.

This, unfortunately, is true.

> At the Foresight conference that just ended, there was a
> poet, Fred Turner, who got it closer to right than anyone.
> He read a poem that was met with thunderous applause
> from what would have to be called a difficult or demanding
> audience. This is someone to watch. spike

Did he offer solutions or did he accurately express our feelings about
current events. I find that solutions hardly ever meet with thunderous
applause. What resonates with us is an accurate statement of what we
already feel. Since we don't have solutions yet, they necessarily seem
strange and alien to us. Solutions that feel right usually are not
really solutions, but are a reversion to some imagined status quo or
previous state of being before the problems arose.

>
> http://www.benturner.com/genesis/menu.html
>
> http://www.benturner.com/genesis/works.html

Do you have the name of the poem he read, or a description of what it
was about? I can't find it on his webpage, but I am not sure what I am
looking for yet.

--
Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com>
Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>


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