Re: POLITICS: Re: grim prospects

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Wed Apr 17 2002 - 14:35:39 MDT


On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 02:34 pm, Brian D Williams wrote:
>
>> This is the exact OPPOSITE of the extropian principles. The
>> example gives up on logic and negotiation. It replaces them with
>> emotions, force and violence. It concludes that genocide of one
>> faction is the only answer. This is extremism, and about as
>> unextropian as you can get.
>
> I made no such conclusion and I indicated at least three possible
> answers.
>
> Strawman argument.

I must have misunderstood you when you said "The only current solution
is for them to battle it out till one party is eliminated." I thought
you were endorsing this as the only option currently possible. I
thought you rejected the first alternative by saying "no negotiation is
possible" and rejected the third alternative because it didn't exist
yet. Therefore, I thought you were endorsing genocide as the "only
current solution." It was this option that I claim is unextropian. The
first option of negotiation would be extropian, as would the third
option of finding another solution.

Also note that I never said you were unextropian or that you had chosen
an unextropian option. I think you are defending yourself more than
defending any idea which called unextropian.



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