From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Sun Apr 14 2002 - 04:56:23 MDT
Smigrodzki, Rafal wrote:
> Samantha Atkins [mailto:samantha@objectent.com] wrote:
>
> Protecting you and I from the State rummaging through our
> property and removing any and all privacy whenever the bloody
> well feel like it is NOT a "technicality"!
>
> ### Down with privacy! Long live accountability!
>
In case you slept through it, US courts have been upholding the
rights of the cops and other government goons to prohibit
citizen's from filming them and to confiscate films. At the
least they generally uphold such film being inadmissible as
evidence.
Pure accountability doesn't work if the guys over there with
most of the armament and in control of the courts and the jail
have very wierd notions about what is and isn't ok behavior for
you and I to engage in. Full disclosuer, the transparent
society, works if you are dealing with rational people,
particularly in a position of considerable power over you.
Otherwise it simply full enables 1984.
> -----
>
> Criminals are
> not the only jeopardy to our security. Government intrusion is
> a larger jeopardy and much more difficult to defend against.
>
> ### Government is not a danger if a thousand cameras track every cop.
> Same applies to criminals. Insistence on "privacy" strengthens both the
> government (contrary to what you seem to believe), and the criminals, to
> the loss of us, the nice people.
Not accurate for the reasons mentioned above. You seem to
believe we have the power to hold government fully to account if
we had full video and sound of everything they ever do. First,
they would never ever allow that. Second, if they have the
power they can tell you to go take a flying leap. Your vote?
They can give you TweedleDee and TweedleDum for a very long time
while most of their organization is not even elected. Thanks,
but for now I require a fair amount of privacy if I am to have
any real security at all. So I would not like to overthrow that
part of the Constitution just yet.
- samantha
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Sat Nov 02 2002 - 09:13:30 MST