From: Dwayne (dwayne@pobox.com)
Date: Sun Apr 07 2002 - 00:21:00 MST
Mike Lorrey wrote:
>
> dwayne wrote:
> >
> > "Michael M. Butler" wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Given that, if you want to figure out which party you were at: Where were you
> > > when Russia started rolling into Poland? When Churchill delivered his "Iron
> > > Curtain" speech? Or when the Wall went up? It was somewhere in there. If you
> > > weren't born yet, I can understand why you might have missed it.
> >
> > Well, no, I was born in 68.
> >
> > But either way, it certainly wasn't a war, and if I was old enough to have
> > been involved in world war 2 I'd be slightly offended at the comparison, I'd
> > think.
>
> I was born in 68 as well. I served in the US military, saw action, and I
> can tell you that it really doesn't matter how big or hot a conflict is.
When we are discussing "world wars", of course it matters.
> To the grunts fighting it on the front lines, there is no difference
> between 'police actions', 'peacekeeping operations', 'counterinsurgency
> advising', and out and out combat. It is your ignorant statements that
> cheapen the sacrifices of those who actually gave enough of a damn.
Rah rah rah, boy you can be rude when you want to be, and yet we all
play nicely on this list, don't we?
I'll state it again for the peanut parade: police actions, civil wars,
counter-insurgency operations etc. pale into insignificance when you are
talking about the sudden and armed conquest of entire continents,
mobilisation of significant proportions of the population of the planet,
death tolls in the millions, destruction of entire cities and regions,
etc.
You can be as self-important as you like, I just think you're very
funny.
> > Oh, yes, I agree totally.
> > I'd also suggest that it's *exactly* the sort of outside meddling we've seen
> > for years which has allowed it to go on for so long.
>
> I don't recall any US or UN peacekeeping operations ever initiated in
> Palestine, at least in the last several decades, so your statement is
> baseless.
Really? The Israelis don't get any aid or help from any other nation?
The palestinians are entirely self-funded, armed and supplied? They get
no support from surrounding arab nations? The jewish and palestinian
diaspora sit back and watch from a distance?
> The only outside meddling going on that hasn't contributed to
> peace is the constant financing of terrorist palestinians by the arab
> world.
Ahhhh, so there *is* outside meddling. And yet my statement is baseless?
I see.
Thank you for your sagely advice.
Dwayne
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