Re: Uploading

From: Eugene Leitl (Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de)
Date: Sat Mar 09 2002 - 01:10:21 MST


On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Richard Steven Hack wrote:

> I have no problem with that either. But the impression I got from some
> of the comments on uploading was that it was intended as a *substitute*
> for participating in reality or as the primary "residence" as it were
> for a Transhuman.

Virtual navel-gazers will get taken by whoever who controls the hardware
layer. (Hey, nice piece of computronium. We'll take it!). Nobody abolished
the rat race, and the limits of growth are given by the
matterenergy/spacetime concentration being finite. Lacking advent of
low-threshold spacetime engineering, it pays to not lose touch with
reality.

> I have no problem with telepresence as an *adjunct* to "direct" (however
> you interpret "direct") perception.

The only difference between direct perception and telepresence is
relativistic lag. An upload is fast enough to use light for echolocation,
and feel a lightwave reaches a sensor array.

However, there's a long path from your pillow-case wrapped frozen noggin
sitting in aluminum cooking pot in the dewar to something that fast. An AI
bred natively on the (coadapted) hardware layer doesn't have that
handicap.



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