From: Dossy (dossy@panoptic.com)
Date: Mon Dec 10 2001 - 11:59:19 MST
On 2001.12.10, James Rogers <jamesr@best.com> wrote:
> At this point I would say believing in such things is pure fantasy. There
> is not the slightest indication that we can cheat thermodynamics.
I'm not claiming that one can "cheat" thermodynamics. I'm asserting
that there are some edge cases where the "laws" no longer hold. It's
at the point where we learn to exploit those edge cases where the
"laws" of thermodynamics will no longer serve as a limiting factor.
We constantly learn that while at certain levels our laws of nature
appear to be strong laws, when you get in deep enough, they don't
necessarily hold, and there are a whole other set of "laws" that
govern behavior.
I'm just suggesting that we need to get there with regards to
thermodynamics.
> You assertion is essentially hand waving unless you can give real
> substance to your belief
*waves hands*
> (anybody can make random assertions, but without evidence, they are
> worthless).
I'm worthless, then.
-- Dossy
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