From: E. Shaun Russell (e_shaun@extropy.org)
Date: Thu Nov 22 2001 - 01:10:32 MST
The following is the charter of List Rules. Please let me know if you
require alternate formatting.
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WELCOME FROM EXTROPY INSTITUTE PRESIDENT MAX MORE
Welcome to the Extropians List! This List has hosted innovative discussions
on the Internet continuously since 1991. We welcome innovative discussions
pertaining to scientific, technological, philosophical, artistic, economic,
and social perspectives on the future.
If you are not familiar with extropian thinking, I suggest you read the
posts for a while before you begin to post. You will gain an idea of how
the list works, and see how the range of topics varies from week to week
and month to month. If you read only one document to get an idea of the
attitudes and values shared by extropians despite all their diversity,
please read The Extropian Principles 3.0. You can find this at:
http://www.extropy.org/extprn3.htm
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Max More
President, Extropy Institute
more@extropy.org
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As long-time List member Hal Finney wrote:
“Extropianism is a philosophy of life. Max More, editor of Extropy, has
identified five Extropian principles [referring to an earlier version of
the Extropian Principles]:
· Boundless Expansion
· Self Transformation
· Dynamic Optimism
· Intelligent Technology
· Spontaneous Order
“You can see that the basic point is a belief that the future will allow
virtually unlimited expansion in the possibilities for our own personal
lives. Extropians reject limits imposed by outsiders on what we can do and
what we can become. We embrace the future, with all of its awe-inspiring
possibilities.
“[Referring to the reading list at the Extropy Institute website,] The role
of [these] books is to show that these aren’t just idle musings and hopes,
but are well-grounded expectations about what we are going to have to work
with in the next century. Without having read those books, such
common-place Extropian ideas as immortality or a world without governments
might seem absurd.
“If you haven’t read these books but want to ask questions about these and
other Extropian ideas, the problem is that the answer is usually going to
be, first read the book. You can’t answer a question about the possibility
for [physical] immortality in a page or two, not in any kind of convincing way.
“Now, after you’ve read some of these books, you still may not agree that
all of these ideas are practical, but at least you can discuss them on
common ground with other list members. That kind of discussion is
practical, helpful, and informative. Extropians are not dogmatists. If
there are practical problems standing in the way of the realization of
their hopes and ideals, we should be discussing them now, so that solutions
can be found.
“Of course, some people will be opposed to Extropian ideas not because they
seem impractical, but because they seem immoral. Re-read the list of
Extropian principles above. If you don’t agree with them, if you don’t
agree that we should attempt to break through all the limits that constrain
us today, then you probably won’t benefit from discussion with Extropians.
“To sum up, the Extropians lists welcome members who share an interest in
the exciting, optimistic, future-oriented philosophy of Extropianism. If
you’re new to these ideas, they can offer suggestions to help you find
books, authors, and other resources to learn more about what we can and
will become. If you’re more experienced, they offer discussion and feedback
with a high level of quality and responsiveness. The future is coming, and
the Extropian lists offer you a chance to get ready for the fantastic
opportunities that await us all.”
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Enjoy the List!
E. Shaun Russell (e_shaun@extropy.org)
List Administrator
and
David McFadzean (david@javien.com)
Electronic Communications Officer
and
Max More (max@maxmore.com)
President, Extropy Institute
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E. Shaun Russell Operations Officer, Extropy Institute
e_shaun@extropy.org http://www.extropy.org
Director, Kryos Biomedical Inc.
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