From: Charlie Stross (charlie@antipope.org)
Date: Wed Nov 21 2001 - 05:30:19 MST
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:39:06PM -0500, John Clark wrote:
>
> Eliezer S. Yudkowsky <sentience@pobox.com> Wrote:
>
> > My personal opinion at this point, for whatever it's worth, is that John
> > Clark has lost the current argument between himself and Samantha, having
> > resorted to ad homonym arguments without provocation.
>
> Ok Eliezer, it's time to put your money where your mouth is. I want to see you say with a
> straight face that the idea this war was not caused by the destruction of the World Trade
> Center but because evil American oil companies want to build a pipeline in Afghanistan is not
> stupid,
Speaking for myself, I think you're setting up a straw man opponent.
The root causes of the complex are _far_ more complex than "evil American
oil companies" or the proximate cause (World Trade Center attack). And
it can't be fixed without addressing the fundamental problems.
(See http://www.antipope.org/charlie/rant/bombing.rant.html for my
take on what those problems are.)
-- Charlie
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