From: Ralph Lewis (rlewis10us@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Oct 17 2001 - 22:05:37 MDT
Bouvier & Grant in "How Many Americans?" , a Sierra Club Book (not noted as
a right wing organization!) give a rough estimate of a substantiable
population for the US as 180 million. We are at what over 250 million now? I
doubt if even the worst anthrax bio war would get the number that far down!
Ralph
At 11:42 PM 10/17/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Randy Smith wrote:
>>...the waves of immigration that now plague this nation
>
>It is hard to imagine that anybody could say anything so stupid on this
>list. Randy you are such a jerk -- you wouldn't even be an American if
>there hadn't been any immigration to that continent.
>
> - Miriam>>
>
>Er...OK ::deep breath::
> You need to draw a clear distinction between
>"immigration" in the nice clean 21rst century
>usuage...and the bad bad word.
> Conquest.
> We did not "petition the Natives" for entrance
>to their social systems. We did not seek to use
>their tax base (laughable thought that!).
> We displaced them with extreme prejiduce.
> We took the tools of a technological society
>and turned NorAm into a place that the preexisting
>peoples wouldn't even recognize.
> We displaced them just like they displaced the
>ones who were there before them (some of whom,
>it seems, were caucasian, though it doesn't matter
>much persay).
> As for my ancestors immigrating... well most of
>my family came, and they assimilated. The welfare
>systems were not in place then, and my family
>ostracizes any members who use them to this day.
> We don't need multitudes of immigrants straining
>our society at this point, not right now.
> If we were going to accept lots of immigrants
>we should focus on the sort of scources we used
>to focus on. There are lots of good potential
>immigrants in South Africa and Rhodesia for
>example. Or Eastern Europe. Folks who would
>move things in a positive direction.
> The Boers have some spine still. We could use
>people whose ancestors pulled off the Great Trek.
> Unlike many of the folks (here and abroad) who
>play with America's demographics in the name of
>abstract "ideals" straight out of Das Kapital.
> What do I call people like that.. ah yes "jerks"..
>and remarkably they say "stupid things on this list"
>from time to time. Randy isn't one of them however.
>
>v/r
>brian
>
>
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