Re: Recommendations for Juvenile SF

From: Adrian `Guru Zeb` Harper (guruzeb@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Wed Sep 12 2001 - 20:30:48 MDT


At 01:32 12/09/01, you wrote:
>Damien Broderick wrote:
> >
> > At 07:45 AM 9/10/01 -0700, Brian wrote:
> >
> > >>From: Greg Burch <gregburch@gregburch.net>
> >
> > >>A family of relatively recent Indian immigrants who are merchants
> > >>in our neighbrohood have a 10-year-old son who seems to be shaping
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >Neighbrohood? ;)
> >
> > That was just a simple typing error by Greg. He meant `Nighbrohood', the
> > nearby 'hood where the brothers live.
>
>Well, it's good to see that people are taking these terms so lightly. I
>must say I was rather stunned to see in the newspaper an article about
>the first American team to play a match of cricket at Lord's in jolly
>ole' eland. They were a racially diverse team from East Los Angeles
>whose official team name is the Compton Homies.
>
>Given how much native americans hate having terms referring to
>themselves used in sports team names, I am rather surprised at this
>double standard...

I'd be very surprised if there aren't many Native American sports teams
using names
that refer to various aspects of native culture.

Mike i think what your failing to understand here is "Cultural ownership of
terms"
it's fine for ppl from a given community to use certain terms to describe
themselves
and others around them. Whilst for an "outsider" to use the same term is to
so much
insulting but more like too familiar. the same rule applies to all races
and creeds.

If i called someone US citizens "White Trash", "Trailer Trash", "Cracker",
or "Cheese Head"
I'd expect to get my Brit ass shot off or at least punched. :)
But we both know that these terms are commonly banded about within those
particular
communities.

My problem with this kind of thing is the persistent use of the "N" word in
Afro-American
culture particularly music. With result it's becoming a commonly used
phrase in black
communities around the world, my own relatives in the West Indies use it
all too often.
I do feel however the use of this word within the black community only
weakens any
argument against me and my relatives having to tolerate it's unfriendly use
by others.

So as you can see no double standard, just the typical usual somewhat
peculiar workings
of ppls irrational cultures.

(JOKING)
You should talk to more black ppl Mike, oh sorry you guys have "ppl of
color" don't you. :)

Later
Zeb

"FURIOUS GREEN DREAMS, LAY SLEEPING IN STATE,
BUT SOON THE GREAT JELLY SHALL RISE FROM THE
DEPTHS,
AND ALL THOSE WHO MOCKED SHALL KNOW THEIR FATE
IS SEALED"
                                Guru Zeb,
                                Hacienda,
                           Manchester, 1989



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