RE: TERRORISM: looking for solutions
From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Wed Sep 12 2001 - 13:26:52 MDT
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>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:41:31 -0500
> extropians@extropy.org Chuck Kuecker <ckuecker@mindspring.com> RE: TERRORISM: looking for solutionsReply-To: extropians@extropy.org
>
>At 01:15 AM 9/12/01 -0700, Joe Dees wrote:
>> >
>>And something else I forgot; the only reasons I can think of for people to
>>fear low-power x-ray searches are if they are embarrased at the dimunitive
>>size or odd configuration of some of their body parts, or if they are
>>muling some treasured contrababd, for themselves or others. Well, LIVES
>>are at stake here; if'nyer ashamed at the size of yer pep-pee- or ta-ta's,
>>then employ the extropian alternative of augmentation, and ifnyer problem
>>is related to contraband transportation, then use your big brains to
>>figure out alternative modes of transport, while working to change the
>>laws. The lives of innocent citizens are too heinous a price to pay to
>>salve your egos or facilitate your substance use preference legality
>>circumventions.
>> >
>
>Subjecting innocent people to ANY dose of ionizing radiation, or ANY
>radiation that has not been "proven safe" in a quest for total security is
>unconscionable.
>
><Sarcasm mode on:
>There are other ways of checking for contraband. Making the passengers
>board the plane in hospital gowns and straitjackets would be one. No
>passenger thus treated could possibly hijack a plane, or utilize anything
>hidden in a body cavity to do so. Best of all, it's a cheap solution - no
>high tech needed.
> >
>
>All the security piled on the airports in the last thirty years have not
>deterred the terrorists. There will always be an end run possible with any
>security measure. Making life even more stressful for everyday citizens is
>not good policy. This is one of the terrorists' big goals - turn America
>into a big locked down prison.
>
>The road to the police state is paved with "common sense" intrusions on
>citizen's rights, in the search for "safety".
>
>"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither." Seems
>like that's just what we got yesterday.
>
>Chuck Kuecker
>
Some people feel uncomfortable with armed sky marshalls riding shotgun on their flights, too, but that, increased checking of passengers, including with low-power x-ray machines and chemical sniffers, the replacement of the minimum wage NYCO types at the checkpoints with well-paid, trained, alert and responsible personnel, all these will happen, whether it offends your precious anarcho-libertarian conscience or not, and in the final cost-benefit analysis, life being antecedent to any exercise of liberty, and the number of potential air + ground victims being in all cases equal to or greater than the number of passengers alone, the preservation of the lives of the citizens both in the air and on the ground far outweigh the additional inconvenience to passengers. We can't make such actions as occurred yesterday impossible, but we can - and will -make them a helluva lot harder. The days of risking lives for the sake of indolent ease and lackadaisicality are over.
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