From: Greg Burch (gregburch@gregburch.net)
Date: Tue Sep 11 2001 - 19:33:03 MDT
You know, I don't want to sound pugnacious, but this kind of carping wasn't
much in evidence when US citizens were dying in European wars last century.
GB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian `Guru Zeb` Harper" <guruzeb@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: "Attack on Civilized World" answer "Defense of USA and USA
citizens"
> Hi ppl
> Hate to come over as the whining Brit, But. This goes IMHO to
> illustrate the kind of
> policy, and presentation of policy fubars that make The US less popular
> with some parts of the
> rest of the planet.
> All day we have had Bush and the current US administration talking about
> "An attack on the
> whole civilized world" ( which imho is a little over egging the pudding )
> and several world
> leaders have chimed in agreement ( not least our very own Tony Blair ).
> Which is quite understandable, under the circumstances.
>
> Then i see Bush in a press conference say "We will defend America and
> Americans" in a
> very pointed semi-isolationist manner.
>
> Well what happened to the coalition of global civilization, sounds like
> it's fine for the "whole civilized world"
> to be happy to rally to The US's support, but Bush is only interested in
> "America and Americans".
>
> Yeah i understand Bush does not want to say anything that could be viewed
> as a commitment to
> defend other nations. But even a clumsy linguist like me can come up with
a
> statement that serves
> to not commit whilst not snubbing my allies.
> "We and our allies around the world will defend our nations and our
> citizens" that easy.
>
> Now am not just playing fast and lose with somatics here, IHMO this is
just
> the kind of badly presented or
> plain bad policy that helps to generate the kind of bad feelings, and
sense
> of national insult, that has
> help make the events in NY and Washington possible.
>
> Zeb
>
>
>
> "FURIOUS GREEN DREAMS, LAY SLEEPING IN STATE,
> BUT SOON THE GREAT JELLY SHALL RISE FROM THE
> DEPTHS,
> AND ALL THOSE WHO MOCKED SHALL KNOW THEIR FATE
> IS SEALED"
> Guru Zeb,
> Hacienda,
> Manchester, 1989
>
>
>
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